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Monday, December 15, 2008

Tacky or just plain disgusting?

I saw these today and I swear, I couldn't believe my eyes. I know they were done in fun. I know that the person that designed them thought they were silly and kitsch. But REALLY? Is it funny to mock something that is so revered by so many Christians around the world? Is it funny to call your product Stigmittens?



I just don't know. I certainly don't think they're funny. I think they go beyond tacky. But then again I'm the girl that thinks tattoos are tacky and pierced lips are gross. I'm not a big fan of scarification or body modifications, and I think, given the choice between the two, I'd go for the Stigmittens over the real live stigmata.

I question the motive and the humor. I hate when people make fun of other people's values and beliefs. Which, btw, is why I am not welcoming of religious cards into my own home. Because it's rude, it's dismissive, and it's insensitive. Anyone that doesn't get that, in my opinion, has a real problem with their own self-awareness. But that's neither here nor there. I don't think poking fun of something like the stigmata by making mittens depicting the bloody scar is wholesome fun for all. I wonder the reactions there would be if people who are religious saw some kid wearing those. I'm guessing those mittens could incite some real hatred.

But I'm curious. What do you think? Are they funny? Would you wear them? Do you find them insulting?
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17 Comments:

Blogger margalit said...

Just testing....ignore.

15/12/08 4:27 PM  
Blogger Daisy said...

I'm not Catholic, but I still find these offensive. Beyond tacky, really.

15/12/08 5:04 PM  
Blogger bethany actually said...

As a non-Roman Catholic Christian, I find them in very poor taste, but at the same time unsurprising. Jesus himself told his followers that they should expect mockery and persection, after all! I would assume the person wearing them was either ignorant or deliberately trying to provoke a reaction. If ignorant, it might be the kind thing to do to point out to the wearer that he or she is offending the religious beliefs of millions. But if deliberately trying to provoke a reaction, I wouldn't want to give the wearer the satisfaction. I'd probably roll my eyes and say a silent prayer for the person in either case. :-)

15/12/08 5:19 PM  
Blogger hschinske said...

I thought they were funny in the sense that yes, they made me crack up laughing, but that doesn't mean I'd wear them. I think real Christian art is often funny, for that matter (in the middle ages, often intentionally so; in, say, the nineteenth century, usually unintentionally). Exactly when it's legitimate to laugh at it, or how, is a difficult question. I am not prepared to say that no one should *ever* make a joke about St. Lawrence and his gridiron, but obviously there are times when you shouldn't.

Helen

15/12/08 7:08 PM  
Blogger margalit said...

Question: Is it only Catholics that believe in the stigmata?

15/12/08 7:32 PM  
Blogger just thinking... said...

so very cheesey (and, yes, offensive). and so very sad that someone thinks this is either funny or no big deal.
Don't know if the stigmata is just a Catholic thing or not (being raised a Catholic in a Catholic neighborhood who attended a Catholic elementary school, I'm a little one-sided in my knowledge of these things).

15/12/08 7:37 PM  
Blogger Lunch Buckets said...

My first thought - funny. Irreverent? Yes. Offensive to others? Most assuredly. The name "stigmittens"? Freakin' hilarious. My religious background does not acknowledge the existence of stigmata itself - for what it's worth.

15/12/08 8:23 PM  
Blogger lisabeedesigns said...

Hi, I've deleted your comment from my blog. If you'd like to repost it with out the link to your blog, I'd be happy to keep it up.

I don't mind your criticism of the pattern. I do mind having you use my blog as advertising for yours.

Have a good one!

15/12/08 11:14 PM  
Blogger margalit said...

Lisabee, I did not go to your blog, nor did I comment on it. I purposely didn't link to your blog because... well you know why. So if someone went there and used my name, well, what else is new? It's just so much fun to stir up shit and pretend you're me.

Check your stats. I can guarantee you won't see MY ISP there.

16/12/08 12:10 AM  
Blogger lisabeedesigns said...

Gotcha. I've deleted the post on my blog so that's all moot now.

Carry on, and happy blogging.

16/12/08 12:23 AM  
Blogger margalit said...

You might want to go back to where you posted about this and correct your error, too. I really don't need this tsuris.

16/12/08 1:21 AM  
Blogger The Beautiful Spiritual & Crafty Mama said...

I didn't find them funny nor did I find them offensive. I viewed it as an Artists expression. Will it offend people, yah if they let it.

I am very spiritual just for the record. I am also very artistic.

If you don't like them, then don't buy them period...end of story.

16/12/08 2:15 AM  
Blogger Thumper said...

:::Looks at my tattoos:::

:::shrugs:::

I don't think they're tacky, they mean a lot to me, but whatever.

The mittens...not my taste, I don't get the supposed humor behind them, but I suppose someone out there thinks they're funny. Live and let live.

16/12/08 3:16 PM  
Blogger KLee said...

I think they're kind of juvenile. I mean, I "get" them, and what they represent, but I think it's sad that someone felt the need to a.) display Christ's suffering, in which a lot of people believe, in a so-called "fun" manner; and b.)trivialize what would be a very painful wound.

I am a Christian, but I am Lutheran, not Catholic. While my religion does not place as much emphasis on stigmata as many Catholic churches do, I can appreciate that Christ suffered for me, and I wouldn't want to either make light of it, or to poke fun at those who do believe.

On the other hand, I've always personally balked at the idea of wearing a crucifix with a suffering Jesus on it. Many people wear one as a reminder to themselves of Christ's sacrifice, but I think it's a little maudlin. Of course, other faiths may think the same thing about the crucifix as well -- why would you want to wear a symbol that was used as an instrument of Christ's death? To each his own, I expect.

I just think it's sort of tacky and mean-spirited.

16/12/08 5:49 PM  
Blogger lisabeedesigns said...

Margalit:

Corrections have been made. I apologize for my misreaction.

May I kindly suggest, though, that if you really don't want this kind of tsuris then perhaps leaving that group completely behind might be best. Most of the folks there (including myself) don't seek you out. It's just a thought, but it might have some validity to it.

And again, happy blogging.

16/12/08 7:24 PM  
Blogger margalit said...

Lisabee, most of those folks DO seek me out. I check my stats very carefully every day, and with over 500/hit/day, at least 40 of them are directly from those people. You might think they don't stalk, but they do. And I know who most of them are. My stats not only include ISP, but exact location and some other tidbits that point directly to people. I'm not being paranoid. That gentleman stalks me everyplace I go, and admits it. That other Bostonian reads me often. I know what neighborhood she lives in, in fact I know pretty much exactly where she is from my stats. She's here OFTEN, even if she protests otherwise.

As for me, I rarely if ever look at that place although I am directed to certain posts and will go and look. Someone (and no, I won't mention who because then you will all go after her and she's a regular there) points out particularly interesting posts. But I do not post there. Ever.

16/12/08 11:36 PM  
Blogger margalit said...

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16/12/08 11:41 PM  

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